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#1 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2021-12-07 21:16:14

fittan wrote:

mery grimbus everywan cus i wont remember to post it on grimbus

#3 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2020-12-19 10:32:24

mery grimbus everywan cus i wont remember to post it on grimbus

#13 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-07-08 20:59:48

fittan wrote:

another day another symptom of GAD
https://femto.pw/rnev.png

and now im showing schizophrenic symptoms again (unrelated to quoted post) i think fuck i wish i was in a life situation where i had the time for this shit

e: nevermind? i guess? just fever and anxiety-induced paranoia

#14 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-07-01 14:43:42

Granger wrote:

No, im not expecting people to treat me like that, its just what happens because they see me as one. (at least in my case.) Not all transwomen are this fortunate sadly and im not sure what do, especially when they put a geniune effort, but in all cases they should be afforded their basic respect. Those that dont (those that dont even shave, like wtf?), i do not condone having expectations of being treated as woman fully. You are what you do, not what you say you are. This might sound weird to you with your view regarding trans people (since you think im not a woman), but its especially relevant to things like otherkin. Im not impressed or treating you a certain way until you actually appear that way, expecting otherwise is what makes this delusion.

It's admirable for sure for you to have succeeded in practically becoming a woman and you should very much allowed to be a woman in your day to day life, my big gripe is with de jure making it so and encouraging individuals to strive to de jure become one. It's not about the procedure existing or taking place, it's about the legal definition dimming to the point of redundancy. Whom I consider a woman or not should mean jack shit to anyone, I will use whatever (genuine) pronouns someone seems like they want me to in order to not be a cunt but I don't support legal sex change. Also, I don't even want to entertain the thought of otherkin being a thing; perceivably genuine cases of species dysphoria are easily diagnosed as something else (read: Peter Pan Syndrome/Chuunibyou/GD).

Granger wrote:

I find it a bit weird you liken nationality to genes, when, as with "being a woman", its about social appearances (theres no finland gene, or even just a specific phenotype), you'd never call someone whos toroughly imbued with finnish ideals, history and culture (as in, actually knows his shit and isnt a fin-weebshit), living in finland a foreigner because hes not foreign to those things. Basically hes not finn-born (as in born in Finland), but he isnt foreign to Finland. Id never claim im female, im de facto not female, but in social matters i am most definitively a woman. Thats the thing, its a social construct just how being a fin is a social construct. Id actually call becoming a fin much more difficult than becoming a woman because the former is much more specific and doesnt vary that much from place to place. (ever tried to define what a modern woman is without sounding like either some real old fashioned misogynist or otherwise offensive as hell without ending up wishy washy?)

I'd actually rather nationality was decided by predominant genetic heritage rather than any form of jus soli. A child of two nationalities should automatically carry either one of the parents' (usually mother's, like how the Jewish do it) but to me rather not both nationalities. I'm digressing again because the overall topic is becoming a bit exhausted. What I continuously refer to as the façade isn't really as much of a social construct in my opinion as it is society as a whole and what actually constitutes as social constructs are the continuous efforts to alter what façades are acceptable and which ones are not. I think there is a distinction, albeit a very mild one!

Granger wrote:

Long story short, essentially all sounds are vibrations, pitch is how it vibrates (small but rapid waves is high pitch, vice versa is low pitch.). With some training you can feel for this, as deaf person i feel sound more than i actually hear like you do. You can test this fairly easily yourself, get a big speaker, put a metal something thats fairly flat on it and then put a thin layer of sand on that (it'll form different shapes depending on pitch). Or more fun, go to a concert and stand infront/sit on one of those giant speakers and get your bones rattled. Maybe not as fun if you actually can hear though.

I dont actually know how i sound to others since i cant hear myself (recording your speech and playing it back to yourself is a common trick for training your pitch) but this happens to you too, how you hear yourself is quite different to how others hear your due your jaw bones (and some other bones) picking up those vibrations and carrying them to your ears. THAT is how i hear.

You might be interrested in googling "cochlea implant", which enables deaf people to hear by picking up sound and translating it into vibrations to those bones.

Thanks, I'll read up on it.

Granger wrote:

Try and apply that logic to other things and you'll realize how dumb that actually is. Anything is better than being a quad amputee, crude prostheses better life quality and basically everything for that massively already. We've studies that transistion is overwhelmingly successful even at our current ability, beating out even antidepressiva, for treatment effectiveness for their respective problems. All that though hinges on social acceptance, for someone like me with a supportive enviroment things go great, but for someone who loses EVERYTHING for daring to want to transistion things look rather grim.
Thats not a fault of the treatment quality we can achieve.

There's a lot less to understand about a human not being able to function because they lost four limbs than a human not being able to function because their passport says the wrong thing.

Granger wrote:

That 54% suicide statistic is caused by untreated gender dysphoria (all trans people together), going down to slightly above the social averange (being 13ish% appartently) on successful transistion (people who have transistioned and now live as the opposite sex). The one commonly cited study for "transistion increases suicice risk" is being misinterpreted, it doesnt say any such thing, quite the opposite actually, since it connects the regets to social rejection. That is that people that are out and being shunned have a increased suicide risk than people who are not out, seems pretty obvious now doesnt it?
Being shunned is akin to depriving a plant of watering, people wither, shivel and eventually get so sick mentally, that they kill themselfes.
Fun fact, homosexuality used to have stats that dont look dislimilar to this, weird!

And ill say that, on some way i reget transistioning, I lost a lot of friends (who fairly transparently just faded away because they were trying to avoid me now) and eventually replaced most in my life including my job to go stealth. Sacrifices have been made. I wont ever go back on transistioning though, i dont reget now being a woman at all.

I never took either side of the suicide statistics to heart and don't use them to argue after having read both sides of the story. It's a convoluted mess of contradicting studies with subjective starting points.

Granger wrote:

Im afraid i dont exactly keep up with it. Last i heard was that they cloned a pig heart, claimed that it'd be theoretically viable as heart for humans but i havent heard of human trials involving cloned organs, pig or otherwise. Mostly a lot of future may bring this, not unlike all those new battery techs you hear faffing about and nothing seems to happen because of practicality issues (the COST of making it a common thing mostly).
Still exciting a little, but way too late for me now. Theres people holding out for better tech but i dont fancy getting my vagina at 60+ if that only. Thats long past where you'd be having lots of sexual fun, if any at all.

We're still very many years away, then.

#15 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-06-30 22:24:32

tupsu wrote:
fittan wrote:

This one admittedly applies almost exclusively to the case tupsu described better than I could. I am not claiming this is all there is to gender dysphoria, please don't read into this one too heavily.

actually, no, I don't think so - the age group I'm discussing is the late teens (15-19), once those get into deeper online socialisation and certain social networks (in particular tumblr and certain parts of twitter). if a kid below, say, 10, is exhibiting gender dysphoria, I'd be willing to bet it's not a learned behaviour/what I'm describing, unless their parents are specifically shaming them on their gender or some such matter.

I haven't talked to anyone in that age range. I have, however, spoken to a lot of people during the time I and them was/were 16/17-21/22 while they were having their crossdressing phase and were considering HRT until they realised they were just young, afraid of the world and vulnerable to influence of the internet and easy attention.

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