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#46 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-07-01 02:41:08

fittan wrote:

You are what you make of yourself (see my earlier point of modifications are totally cool by me) but what I think is a tad weird is expecting everyone to conform with the belief that adapting to the mannerisms of another gender or culture makes one that gender or culture. A foreigner in Finland, however thoroughly raised in Finnish circumstances, is always a foreigner. Never a Finn, the genes aren't there. After a few generations with Finnish influence, their descendants may be considered Finnish, but this isn't something you can do with gender.

No, im not expecting people to treat me like that, its just what happens because they see me as one. (at least in my case.) Not all transwomen are this fortunate sadly and im not sure what do, especially when they put a geniune effort, but in all cases they should be afforded their basic respect. Those that dont (those that dont even shave, like wtf?), i do not condone having expectations of being treated as woman fully. You are what you do, not what you say you are. This might sound weird to you with your view regarding trans people (since you think im not a woman), but its especially relevant to things like otherkin. Im not impressed or treating you a certain way until you actually appear that way, expecting otherwise is what makes this delusion.

I find it a bit weird you liken nationality to genes, when, as with "being a woman", its about social appearances (theres no finland gene, or even just a specific phenotype), you'd never call someone whos toroughly imbued with finnish ideals, history and culture (as in, actually knows his shit and isnt a fin-weebshit), living in finland a foreigner because hes not foreign to those things. Basically hes not finn-born (as in born in Finland), but he isnt foreign to Finland. Id never claim im female, im de facto not female, but in social matters i am most definitively a woman. Thats the thing, its a social construct just how being a fin is a social construct. Id actually call becoming a fin much more difficult than becoming a woman because the former is much more specific and doesnt vary that much from place to place. (ever tried to define what a modern woman is without sounding like either some real old fashioned misogynist or otherwise offensive as hell without ending up wishy washy?)

On a complete side-node, as a non-argument and out of pure curiosity:

Granger wrote:

being trans isnt a identity to me as much being deaf is a identity to me (being both trans and deaf)

How did you learn how to differentiate pitch? It's impressive as hell if you succeeded in this.

Long story short, essentially all sounds are vibrations, pitch is how it vibrates (small but rapid waves is high pitch, vice versa is low pitch.). With some training you can feel for this, as deaf person i feel sound more than i actually hear like you do. You can test this fairly easily yourself, get a big speaker, put a metal something thats fairly flat on it and then put a thin layer of sand on that (it'll form different shapes depending on pitch). Or more fun, go to a concert and stand infront/sit on one of those giant speakers and get your bones rattled. Maybe not as fun if you actually can hear though.

I dont actually know how i sound to others since i cant hear myself (recording your speech and playing it back to yourself is a common trick for training your pitch) but this happens to you too, how you hear yourself is quite different to how others hear your due your jaw bones (and some other bones) picking up those vibrations and carrying them to your ears. THAT is how i hear.

You might be interrested in googling "cochlea implant", which enables deaf people to hear by picking up sound and translating it into vibrations to those bones.

It's not sad that life is about façades, you can't be trusted to be successful unless you go through great lengths to radiate success. For a lot of people though, that's not the goal of success (but I digress). What's my point is that my view of the ordeal IS the façade, that it is one and that it is all that it is. I'm okay with expressing oneself with how one wants to be viewed, but not expecting to be viewed as such. Get me?

See first paragraph.

Nah, a person exhibiting Peter Pan Syndrome is refusing to come to terms with the hardships of life and that overcoming them (literally just dealing with them) is necessary to become a functioning cog in the machine of society. Not believing sex reassignment procedures are very successful (at least in their current state) I think better practice would be to strongly encourage not to undergo them and to come to terms with the hardships of life.

Try and apply that logic to other things and you'll realize how dumb that actually is. Anything is better than being a quad amputee, crude prostheses better life quality and basically everything for that massively already. We've studies that transistion is overwhelmingly successful even at our current ability, beating out even antidepressiva, for treatment effectiveness for their respective problems. All that though hinges on social acceptance, for someone like me with a supportive enviroment things go great, but for someone who loses EVERYTHING for daring to want to transistion things look rather grim.
Thats not a fault of the treatment quality we can achieve.

That 54% suicide statistic is caused by untreated gender dysphoria (all trans people together), going down to slightly above the social averange (being 13ish% appartently) on successful transistion (people who have transistioned and now live as the opposite sex). The one commonly cited study for "transistion increases suicice risk" is being misinterpreted, it doesnt say any such thing, quite the opposite actually, since it connects the regets to social rejection. That is that people that are out and being shunned have a increased suicide risk than people who are not out, seems pretty obvious now doesnt it?
Being shunned is akin to depriving a plant of watering, people wither, shivel and eventually get so sick mentally, that they kill themselfes.
Fun fact, homosexuality used to have stats that dont look dislimilar to this, weird!

And ill say that, on some way i reget transistioning, I lost a lot of friends (who fairly transparently just faded away because they were trying to avoid me now) and eventually replaced most in my life including my job to go stealth. Sacrifices have been made. I wont ever go back on transistioning though, i dont reget now being a woman at all.

I seriously hope for the sake of every form of national and international security that we are never able to leave our bodies in exchange for another one. Ever.

I agree, it'd be a massive secturity risk.

I'm going to want a source on the labgrown organs, I assume you've read into it a lot more than I have so you know what's worth reading. I'm intrigued.

Im afraid i dont exactly keep up with it. Last i heard was that they cloned a pig heart, claimed that it'd be theoretically viable as heart for humans but i havent heard of human trials involving cloned organs, pig or otherwise. Mostly a lot of future may bring this, not unlike all those new battery techs you hear faffing about and nothing seems to happen because of practicality issues (the COST of making it a common thing mostly).
Still exciting a little, but way too late for me now. Theres people holding out for better tech but i dont fancy getting my vagina at 60+ if that only. Thats long past where you'd be having lots of sexual fun, if any at all.

No, actually, the original article mentions PrEp and how unfair and homophobic it is to not make sure they are always available at the cost of the government. Use a condom.

Then i do indeed agree, there should be more emphasis on practicising safe sex and vetting your partner(s). I still dont think it should be a thing to be avoided entirely though, this has some paralels to hormonal contraceptives. It should be a option i think. Freely avaiable but not subsidized seems fair.

#47 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-06-27 08:10:10

tupsu wrote:

Granger seems to have taken over my part of the discussion really successfully, I haven't really had much to contribute

remember to kiss cute people regardless of their gender if you happen to like them

Im curious if you disagree with me on some points? A few of my points were rather controversial within the trans community when i still participated. (me getting called truscum f.e, or me being called transphobic even for daring to go stealth/viewing that as the goal)

#48 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-06-27 08:07:42

fittan wrote:

I have a super hard time likening being "a leader/alpha" with being a woman edit: with becoming the opposite sex/gender one was born as, that came out wrong. You can learn to be one but not the other.

All im saying is that its about perception. eg, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its probably a duck!

But i did? I learned to dress myself like a woman, how to speak (inflection) and sound (pitch, resonance) like a woman, i did not need to learn mannerisms too much, but that i did, too. Mabye you'll liken to me being a impostor next, cause im copying what women do, but im just gonna ahead and debunk that right there, thats how we do pretty much anything learning related. Girls learn to be women by looking how women do things, im no different from that.

I don't think gender is something like a personal utopia, which is how I get it is (quite subjectively) to you. This just makes me see it like a fad. I wanted to be cool in primary school and my view of that was to be as much like the people I personally saw as "already cool", which just lead to me looking back at myself like being a complete dweeb back then.

The expression bit (as you explained it) also just seems like a personal delusion to me, like wishing to look successful, so you spend money on expensive clothes and driving a nice car hoping others will eventually view you as someone who is successul.

I wouldnt call it a personal utopia, just how you see yourself. Which of course might be a super utopian version thats perfect and everything, but thats narcissistic people only really. What do you think gender is if its not how you see yourself?

What makes this different from a fad is that i didnt transistion for others, to seem "cool" or anything. I dont wanna stand out, quite the opposite, which is why i put so much effort into this: to blend in (as much as possible, i AM quite tall for a woman, but not outlandishly so, could've been pervented by letting me transiston before 18 but people are (understandably) iffy about that) and only be a normal girl. Its not to fit into a clique or anything, either. Trans people eventually leave the trans community behind, but they dont stop being trans. Ill grant you that there are people around with other motivations, but thats hardly the entirety of whats happening, please dont discredit trans people based on that. Its like saying gay people dont exist because theres gay hags. Not cool, get me?

For this specific example i just wanna say that the first step to being successful often is appearing successful, because that'll lead yourself better opportunities. Business life, and all too often social life sadly is about facades. You do dress extra nice and groom yourself before you go to those interviews right? None hires a hobo afterall.
Not quite how i meant it for what i did and really what i did, but yes. At the risk of repeating myself, i am woman because i do the things a woman does causing others to see me as a woman. There isnt really much more to this, i dont need to be making a lot of money or anything like that, like for actually being successful is.
After all, what is a woman changed quite a bit over the years, didnt it? Women today wouldnt be called womanly 3 decades ago.

All I think of inspired by this and the previous statements is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan_syndrome

So you think trans people only exist because they "failed at being men"? In a way, i suppose, i did fail. I couldnt bear living in a reality of body horror. Imagine if someone told you to just live with some parasite growing out of your face. Its incredibly reductionist and dismissive of what the reality of being trans is, and indeed what trans people are. I didnt fail at being a boy, i've been a boy alright, i just hated it with every single bit of my being. Nor did i fail to grow up into my adult responsibilities.

Im one to argue for gender dysphoria to be recategorized as (sexual) development disorder, but its certainly not this! Not even close.

No i dont think so. First of all, this isnt applicable in what age ranges this occurs. Trans people tend to realize that something is wrong as soon as the age 10 and even younger. Some claim they always knew "since birth" but im gonna call it a exaggeration. It becomes notable for trans people as soon as societal expectations between boys and girls differ (quite early already) and then extra so during the onset of puberty. And then, nothing about this does anything with feeling uncertain. Ask any trans person, we're confident that we want to be the other sex.

That I can't ever personally consider a sex change not leading to fertility as successful. The world's not black and white and giving birth isn't what our lives revolve around, but I don't really see the point of undergoing sex change if it can't ever be complete. I doubt supplementary hormones can be enough to maintain a transplanted reproductory system, there's a lot more behind that makes the sex of a person what it is.

Well its as successful as it can be right now. Transistioning has way way better outcomes than not transistioning.
Its not worth doing because its not perfect is a fallacity, you know? It absolutely is. May it be even better for those after me. There wont be perfection in those things until we have consicous uploading and our bodies are mere vessels truly.

Oh yeah like, we need to look that the chromosomes match! Like we do with hearts and stuff. Wait. We dont. There is actually a study that suggest that outcomes tend to be better in same sex donor-recipent relationships, yet we dont have much of a problem transplanting womens hearts into men, which happens due neccessity. (women are far more likely to donate organs than men, conversely men recieve more organ transplants than women)
Finally, as i mentioned, people are looking into using labgrown organs, which wouldnt have any genetic mismatch at all if i understood right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-exposure_prophylaxis

Pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP) is the use of drugs to prevent disease in people who have not yet been exposed to the disease-causing agent. The term typically refers to the use of antiviral drugs as a strategy for the prevention of HIV/AIDS.

PrEP is one of a number of HIV prevention strategies for people who are HIV negative but who also have higher-than-average risk of contracting HIV, including sexually active adults at increased risk of HIV (e.g. men who have sex with men), people who engage in injection drug use (see drug injection), and serodiscordant sexually active couples.

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We were talking about Antiretrovirals not Pre-exposure prophylaxis, were we? These?

#50 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-06-20 22:23:06

>You're likening philosophy to medical science, I'm not a fan.

Let me clarify, that philosophy part specifically refers to "i am a woman because people see me as one", which is the philosophical to the social phenomen, much like how someone becomes a top-player because others consider them one.
That specific part has nothing to do with medical science, but sociel science, which in itself is largely based on philosophy.

>Whatever people mean with gender these days is too abstract for me to grasp, which is always what's caused me to struggle so much with understanding the dysphoria.
For the other part it might be easier if you take this apart into 3 scales.

Sex.
Sex simply is your phyiscal, and the easiest of those concepts, ranging from masculine (male) to feminime (female).

Gender.
Gender concerns itself with matters of identity, "who am i, who do i want to be", in short, how you see yourself. (This might be "I am a tomboy/want to be a tomboy".)
I wanna note here that this hardly is exclusive to trans people, everyone has a gender and gender inconguencies manifest in pretty much everyone in comparision to how others see and identify you or what you might currently be. Its the self, philosophically speaking.

Expression.
Expression is how you show yourself to others, how you dress yourself, your manners and so on. What ultimatively leads to what you're being identified as, in some cases combined with your sex. ([name] is such a tomboy!) Fairly straighforward?

What makes gender dysphoria a mental illness is the strongly intensified discomfort between how you see yourself and what you might be. Consider for example how unhappy you are with, say, going into exremes, being called a nazi when you aint (at least as far you see yourself), normally not hugely distressing, but in this mental illness this is greatly exaggerated to the point of being unbearable. Hope that helps?

What trans people do is change their sex to match what they see themselfes as, often involving a change in expression also because of external factors where it wasnt acceptable for them to express themselfes that way. (yknow how girly boys get bullied or being different?)

Pronouns and all that jazz is completly aside from these things. (but i find it great you're using the grammatically correct they where apporative. Thats just something everyone should do irregardless of trans peoples existence.)

>Please don't accuse me of that.
I did not mean to accuse you of pedophilia, apologies.
Whats your point here exactly? Transistioning without piror puberty blocking likewise results in infertility. (Though theres hoping we'll attain this in the future, there are experiments with lab grown uteri and transplants. Looking forward to it! Last things i read that they've gone from organ transplants that are in only until delivery following artifical impregnation to creating organs we might be able to keep in on the basis that they're not donated, but cloned, potentially allowing a woman to experience periods again. No such tests in trans people yet though, for those cloned organs.)

>I took nine years of theology in school, didn't you?
Theological class was mandatory in all my high-school years (10). It dealt with explaining the various religions (including the hindi from your example) and their views while abstaining from making political statements. (eg i wasnt taught that Jesus is THE saviour, but that Jesus is the saviour according to the Christian (and its sub branches). It dealt with a lot of theological theory, the similarities between the 3 major religions, their common roots for example.
You could not opt out of it. Thats what, imo, everyone should have been taught.

Latter at higher school levels i had the choice of various specific theological courses (think some university-like school level), but i picked none of them for my curriculum so i cant speak about their contents, but i suspect it would go further into how (for a christian course anyway) the bible was interpreted, and what the reasons were behind the interpretations. (like how "gays are sinners to burn in hell", when the scriptures never state as such, just retell tales of kings legislating against sodomy or how jesus taught forgiveness but peoples actions afterward were not as such)

>They increase immunity to becoming infected with HIV when taken daily
Im pretty sure they work the other way around, given to people already infected with HIV to supress their symptoms and infectivity. Which absolutely is something we should make avaiable freely and subsidize, because the point isnt to bail out that specific person, but to protect others, it works in tandem with encouraging condom use. Doing so protects you even, reducing your risk to ever contract HIV.

>You're missing my point. The parents who would send children to re-education are the same parents who would beat them for being LGBT. If this is the peaceful option, I think it needs to stay for a while.
Dont we have child protective services for this? Theres nothing better about putting them into those torture camps.

#51 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-06-20 09:55:16

fittan wrote:

highly insightful input on a political debate. i doubt you saw anything but 'homo bad trans bad vote 4 hitler deus vult xd' in anything i wrote but feel free to give your input if you change your mind and want to have a respectful debate.

Interresting that you seem to take offense on such a meaningless 1 word shitpost, maybe i was posting based not at you, who knows?

fittan wrote:

It saves children from domestic violence.

I think you'll find that psychological torture is included in domestic abuse so im not sure what foot you're standing on here. Wheter this "therapy" manifests in beating them for being gay, shocking them, or simply taking away all the nice things at any hint of gayness to be locked into a empty room like a insane person is traumatizing. Theres nothing to discuss here really, we know it doesnt work and instead of "bettering" their lifes it leads to psychological issues, making them no less attracted to people of the same sex, just making them feel repulsed about a thing as fundamental to them as a person like eating is.


I'm more for throwing prosecuted criminals into one pit and letting them rot; I have no sympathy for anyone in prison. Yes, I know persons who are or have been incarcerated.

You dont belive in rehab? Again, we know its more benefitical to society (and cheaper to boot, in the long run) to have a rehabitual prison than a penal one. Do you even know what frivolous offenses people go to prisons for? Hey you had weed, now go to prison for 3 years and afterwards be deprived of any life and worksills and be barred from normal jobs to make sure you reoffend (chances are worse than before) just to live.

Unironically I still think this:
https://femto.pw/9cc3.PNG

If we're speaking metaphors, the perfect circle is insanely rare and the triangularly-shaped spheroid can be altered to be a triangle, while the rectangularly-shaped spheroid can be altered to be a rectangle. It's up to the parents, they have the power to decive about their child until it turns 18.

What does this even supposed to mean? That you're fine with shoving the square into the round peg by reducing them as person? Says a lot really. What if i flip this around and use  parental power to force the child to crossdress, im sure you'll find this rephrensive, i consider both acts unacceptable.

I should have specified there should be no distinction between sexual orientation here. Give condoms intead.

tupsu wrote:

6) I mean, it's fact for a number of other public services? I agree it's not the government's issue though, the individual places should be pushed to provide accessibility

Not by the government. By the clientele, if they so desire.

Wouldnt it be better to have both medication and contraceptives avaiable? This hardly is a subject that affects only gays, id rather we'd treat the cases of HIV where they happen than look away and state "should've used a condom". Simply because condoms are not infallible even if everyone always used one. Im gonna go ahead and compare this to the pill after, which would be a similar situation here. The pill after wasnt avaiable freely until the goverment legislated it as OTC drug. Legislative issues by definition require goverment involvement.

I believe parents should be allowed to decide on their childrens' subjects on religious grounds. It's incredibly atheist of a society to force people to go against their respective religious scriptures.

tupsu wrote:

11) how is it against someone's moral values that certain people exist? if I decide that the existence of
Jewish people goes against my moral values, should that give me reason to demand they don't get mentioned anywhere ever?

Nobody's denying the existence of LGBT or wanting to hide their existence. It's about teaching that what is defined by someone's religion as sin is normal. I think we need to very clearly define that I believe in freedom of (every (major)) religion and letting one's religion dictate their life choices if one so desires. No, I'm not a biblefag.

Homeschool your children then. Schools are a public institution, they do not serve for religious dogma. I think its incredibly arrogant of you to expect society to bend to your whims, to hide that LGBT people exist, because you disagree with it. They do exist, schools teach they exist. School teaches that some religions consider it a sin (as part of religious education). Its not a schools place to say "being gay is bad/good". Schools are supposed to teach what LGBT people are, what they do, as part of sexual education so people are informed.

You can demand this of schools as little as you can demand a libary to stock only knowledge in support of your view, no matter what that view may be. Those are places of information sharing and education, not indoctrination.

Information must be free, for everyone to come to their own conclusion. Its a fundamental pillar of democracy even.

>having an official document state that you are something you are not can feel like you are having your identity stripped away from you
I've tried to understand genuine gender dysphoria and I've interviewed transpersons about this but I've never managed to understand how it's so bad to admit that you were born in another gender than the one in which you decide to present yourself. It's literally just a passport and its purpose is to identify you as what you are and however you modify yourself (which is cool by me, by the way) you're going to be what you were born as. I can't see gender identity crisis being anything but a snowball effect, especially with how common it has become in recent years.

>I also can't tell what exactly you're saying with the tattoos and marriage point, so if you want me to complain about that you might want to clarify that.
Just the bit where such big decisions should be adult decisions. I went on a bit too long trying to drive across literally nothing.

Also, puberty blockers don't make someone fertile. Everyone knows transitioning will make one a surgical replica at best, never a complete version of the opposite gender.

The fundamental you need to understand here is that we categorize people by their outward sex more than the gender. A transwoman looks, smells and sounds like a woman, and therefore will be treated like a woman. They ARE a woman (again i need to stress that this is a different concept from being female), im sure if you've taken philosophy classes you'll understand this concept. In this part (how people see you), gender plays no role, nor do the chromosomes anti-trans people are so hellbent on. If i dont explictily tell people that im trans, noone knows. Thats how it is, and how it should be. Medical matters concern only doctors and the significant others, forcing trans people to have a figurative star of david performs no other function than one of discrimination.
That a transwoman is AMAB is a medical matter much like if someone had herpes 2 years ago. It doesnt need to be public.

About distress recognizing yourself as trans, you need to understand that at its core gender dysporia (i need to stress that this =/= being trans) is a mental illness. Personally my gender dysporia is well managed, perhaps even cured, i transistioned at 18, on hormones since 6 years. i've no issue with recognizing myself as male born at all, thats what i am. Being trans hasnt been a concern or issue for me, beyond this talk, in years, for i simply live as woman and noone sans doctors and my fiance know otherwise. Its a closed chapter. A very bad flu i overcame. Or whatever disease you want, its over, a done deal. Noone needs to know that i had this disease, its completly irrelevant to any social interactions i have. I cant tell you how common this view is among trans people since those like I naturally tend to be invisible (unless of course having been denied proper medical care), but for me this is the whole point about transistion, being trans isnt a identity to me as much being deaf is a identity to me (being both trans and deaf), it came naturally. For me this has been the goal of transistion and cure for gender dysphoria. For all intents and purposes i AM a woman. Feel free to disagree and treat me like a man and adress me as one, but know that all you'll accomplish with that is people staring at you in confusion & disbelief.

Are you hellbent on knowing how often people you're not significantly involved with had [insert any disease] and want to hear about it in detal? Weirdo. Oh ill tell you that im trans if you ask, i just did without you even asking. Go around and ask people if they're trans or [any medical issue] constantly and you'll look like a nutjob.

>I can't see gender identity crisis being anything but a snowball effect, especially with how common it has become in recent years.
Increased awareness and medical progress, advances in diagnosis lead to a snowballing effect indeed, but the actual prevalence of trans people does not become more common because of this, just the diagnosis and so on, like it happened with autism for example. Do note that i consider trans issues different from the other gender issues that deal more with expression than a underlying medical issue, eg nonbinary and that stuff which led to a labeling craze about how you express yourself, where being trans deals more with changing your sex (which often involves a change in expression but doesnt have to).

>Also, puberty blockers don't make someone fertile.
Well they're supposed to delay this so, duh. If your issue is a girl not becoming fertile at the age of 12-13 then im gonna call this a really weird hill to die on. Or for the boys a year or two later. Furthermore if this is truly a issue why dont you do something about the far more common scencario of a naturally late puberty?

#53 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-03-17 19:25:34

Hi im a lurker terrible at starting conversations and having conversations.

#54 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-01-05 10:47:46

SaigonAlice wrote:
Granger wrote:

I got a whole lot of canned food... i mean i appreciate it but it does kinda say some things about what my family thinks about me, innit??

Don't tell me you're actually surprised rofl

Why are you so needlessy rude? For the record: Im surprised i actually got a proper gift this time.
And im not surprised about canned food considering i got a whole lot of other kitchen stuff (Cooking knives etc and even a oven!), too.

But just saying canned food is obviously funnier for the self deprecation humor, right? And you know what, im a shit cook. Im glad that sometimes i can eat canned instead wheres 0 chance that i fuck up the spice yet again.

#55 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2019-01-03 05:36:37

I got a whole lot of canned food... i mean i appreciate it but it does kinda say some things about what my family thinks about me, innit??

#56 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2018-12-06 16:52:46

Ricing is something i wanna do since ages but never get around to or have energy to do. I actually have concrete plans on what i wanna do, but i just cant seem to be arsed.

Also i found that those days i dont really look at my desktop anymore anyway. Always got some window up and running so why rice if i aint gonna see it, unless im gonna go full gun and rice the visuals on every single application i have.

#57 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2018-11-25 07:53:25

That you dont keep the cards you draft doesnt surprise me but the fact that even playing that mode costs money is... uhhhhh...

#58 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2018-10-23 07:07:25

enet wrote:
fittan wrote:

fuk yea comfy autumn rain

also i've been playing maplestory 2 lately, fun shit
hmu if EU ign 'warosu'

Hey, me too

I added you, my name is DrowsyNoona.
I've been jumping from guild to guild recently but I just so happened to make friends with the right people and I'm in the process of being recruited into the rank 1 guild in the server.

Yooo me too, have 2 chars i play InnocentSins and Violation :)

#60 Re: Whatever of importance » The GDPR compliancy post no one asked for » 2018-05-26 01:48:26

How will you handle media embeds, since a lot of the forums i visit are forbidding them now because they're afraid they'll be liable for the host of said media misusing personal data gained from the client needing to pull the media from the host? (usually just IP). + dont want to shell out for storage capacity to allow users to upload their own media nor want to impledement a mirror accomplishing essentially the same.

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