personally I'd say I'm both sad and gay

I've got the flu, I've slept for 12 hours almost straight the past day, and my cough medicine tastes of licorice

I think this is actually what hell is like

I will support you wholeheartedly in that endeavour

I have no issues with tea, even when I drink like a litre of black tea; on the other hand even a small cup of coffee causes my stomach to disagree with it
the end result is that if I drink coffee, it's diluted down to the colour of my skin

fuck you fucking snow and rock eaters ;__;

if it hasn't been obvious yet I kinda gave up on this year, small amount of participants plus I've been way too busy with puljuhommat (for non finns: volunteer crap I signed up for)

we can try again for christmas maybe, no promises unless forum activity really surges

I've not personally spoken to anyone still in that age range experiencing dysphoria either, but as Granger also said earlier, everyone who I know who's 'stuck to it' (i.e. not influenced by the internet but 'authentically' trans) has stated they started feeling uncomfortable/wrong about their body at around toddler age, and it only got worse as puberty appeared. what you are describing does sound about right for what I was describing, yes.

edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Suomi/comments … iv%C3%A4n/ fittan could find this interesting, it's a pretty nice AMA that covers a lot of the topics we've been discussing.

I would probably also be seen as an evil gatekeeper and truscum by the people who use that latter term yes
my general view is that people are in charge of their own lives and should identify as they please, within some bound. I tend to state my main bound as 'could it plausibly occur naturally?' - so genderfluid people for example are cool in my book, but otherkin probably not so much (also they really don't belong in trans spaces imo, animals aren't genders)
also, I do think there's a number of over-identification issues in the community. as the term I'm using for it is implying, the result is that a number of people (often young and impressionable, or having other problems in life) end up identifying as trans, and later reconsidering - the problem, then, being whether they've gone through any irreversible procedures in that time.

I guess an attempt at a brief sum of my views could be:
- let people identify as they please, but I and many others probs won't take someone claiming they're a cat seriously
- as an extension, any kind of modifications or procedures should as a general rule be up to the person to undertake or decide upon
- however, due to current society and internet communities, a number of (in particular young) people seem to currently be beginning to transition, then eventually regretting it and reversing what they can
  - hence, I presently support time restrictions on when people can continue with non-reversible or difficult to reverse procedures; however, if (and hopefully when) the social aspects change, I feel it should move to the discretion of the person, possibly with a psychologist's sign-off (though I don't feel that's the best approach at all)
- under-18s should wait until 18 (or whatever the age of majority happens to be where you are) for non-reversible stuff, but puberty blockers are good by me.