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#31 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 20:53:32

'I don't have a personal opinion but here is a study that says something'

*Redditors relentlessly pour on le downvotes*

#32 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 18:17:38

tupsu wrote:

dude there's no point in me continuing this 'discussion' when your head is clearly stuck so far up your arse that you can't handle women existing and having rights

If there were ever a case of someone 'blocking their ears to a dissenting opinion', it's here. I may have 'radical' opinions on things like gender and race, but it's not like I have a predisposition to believing these things. I just don't look at the world through ideological goggles. I'm still willing to listen and be convinced by what you or anyone else has to say. You even had somewhat valid concerns about Trump with Russia and everything.

#33 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 17:32:09

tupsu wrote:

annnnd there's the random altright website and the male supremacy talk.
nice chatting

'this thing is associated with x political group which I don't like, therefore it's automatically wrong'

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm … id=2375926

There you go, you can sift through the study yourself. It's non-partisan.

Hika wrote:

I'm in Georgia.

These ads are so killer. My favorite one is the one where the clintons move into the White House. Literally golden.

Was it this one? I was talking about the commerical ones lol, they're all top quality. I'm assuming you voted for Clinton?

#34 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 17:00:47

Which state are you in?

loving watching these American ads tho

#35 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 16:22:38

tupsu wrote:

'women don't pay any taxes and only spend others' money'? you're fucking high on something, or you've incurred recent brain damage.

I said that women don't pay any net taxes.

http://www.returnofkings.com/99796/rese … -pay-taxes

Sorry if you don't like facts. Not many people do.

#36 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 15:46:36

a president's role in the modern day is mostly that of a diplomat. having Trump as a president would make the country impossible to take seriously, not to mention create a perfect opportunity for Russia to wrest over power for itself. it's locker room talk, yes - and Trump is a fucking 70 year olds man acting like he's 15, except even 15 year old boys have more sense than to proudly announce how sleazy dickbags they are.

Just because in your view anyone who's not a career politician who constantly spouts PC bullshit and lies isn't 'presidential', doesn't mean we will have a problem negotiating. I'm sure lots of world leaders will hate him, because he isn't part of their international cabal of corruption.
And bringing up that video again? Why do you demonise some stupid video yet ignore everything I've stated about all much more morally detestable things Hillary has done in private?

I support Hillary because she doesn't look like a nutcase and knows how to politics, and I agree with most of her views.

She knows how to politics, as in she's a massive insider with a proven track record of corruption and promoting the interest of her elite donors. She is no different than Obama, Bush, etc., America needs change, not more of the same.

please do go ahead and prove that. your point is invalid, it's a he-said-she-said situation. that was his (and admittedly Bernie's) whole campaign plan - making him look like he's this anti-establishment messiah who has all the means to save the US, and when asked about any actual measures, he nicely slides through it by throwing around hype and buzzwords. (Bernie did less of this part) he has no fucking policies besides 'make the rich people richer' and 'reeee muslims'.

Trump has plenty of policies, some I've already stated. It's not like he can just click his fingers and fix everything, but actually acknowledging the problem is the first step in fixing anything, and you know for a certainty that Hillary won't even try. And I've already said why it's evident that Trump is the anti-establishment candidate. He already has lots of money and power, he has spent millions out of his own pocket to fund his campaign. He has no good incentive to run, besides the actual desire to make the country better. What other motive would he have? To use his presidency to benefit his businesses? Is he just a megalomaniac who wants power? Also evidence points towards him being the anti-establishment candidate, any claim otherwise is unfounded speculation.
Funny how you state the fallacy of 'making the rich richer' when I wrote a whole block of text debunking the socialist theories. Women voting is one of the things that causes the decline in civilisation. Women don't pay any net taxes yet are very keen on spending other people's money.

refugees will go back once the war over there stops. refugees accepted into the US are in nearly all cases educated and skilled workers. states are, in fact, 'philantrophic entities' - they have been ever since they went and started occupying land with the excuse of 'educating the less advanced'.

But those statements are laughable claims. And no, states are not philanthropic entities, their duty is to their own citizens, not randoms from third world countries.

#38 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 13:49:54

UnderminE wrote:

Let's guess who is going to win

I say Clinton

There's blacks, latino's and other minorities, most women and beta males voting against Trump. There's also voter fraud and voting machine rigging to contend with. I wonder if there's enough patriots left in the country.  If Hillary wins she will let so many immigrants in I wonder if the right will ever be able to take power again.

Mara wrote:

Thanks. #MAGA

MAGA

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#39 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 13:41:28

I really don't care if Trump said jokingly he'd date his daughter. Neither that I care he insulted random women and people claim he's sexist. That tape is really the biggest thing you have on him. So Trump said some things and ignored some union, it's still nothing compared to what Hillary has done. If you really care about women, what about how Hillary has attacked rape victims that she knew were innocent? Her husband is literally a sexual predator and likely child molester, logs show he took many flights on Jeffrey Epstein’s 'lolita express'.
You think locker-room talk is as bad as that? And before you bring it up, all these claims that women have been sexually assaulted by Trump are made up. Many have been debunked by actual eye-witnesses. The real question is, what person who is a threat to the left wing political establishment hasn't been accused of sexual assault.
If you're trying to use an argument on morality you have no legs to stand on. I'm pretty sure that you like most young women support Hillary simply because she's a women as well.

As for the refugees and illegal imigrants, they need to go back. They're a detriment to the country and the state isn't some philanthropic entity.

and yet when Hillary does it, she's 'shillary', faking, being a bitch, etc etc?

The difference is that Trump actually wants to enact these things while Hillary really doesn't give a shit, she just adopts the ideology of the day so people will vote for her. She was even voting for race segregation back in the day.

it really isn't our fault that most of NATO can't pull their fucking shit together, especially when we are putting in our part, participating in missions and giving our lives for the US' retarded missions abroad

America isn't the economy it was in the 60's, it's time America focused on it's own problems and let other countries pull their weight on national defense. It's not America's fault the UN is so pozzed right now. Trump is taking some good steps to take on radical Islam like limiting immigration from some countries. I'm not an expert on the situation with ISIS so I'm not gonna say that Trump will fix all the problems in the world, but it's easy to see that his foreign policy is a lot better that Hillary's in that he doesn't want to provoke a war with Russia.

#40 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 11:44:12

Mara wrote:

Are there any streams to follow during the voting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-BXjtnVmVs

#41 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 11:24:04

>hates every minority in the US
>hates the rest of the world>obviously thinks women are barely people and can be used as fucktoys at his volition
>wants to fuck his own daughter, and is willing to state that in public in interviews>is a wealthy businessman who mistreats his employees, forcefully stops them from creating unions, does not treat them with any respect>most supporters are early 20s angry depressed men and poorly educated hicks

False, unsubstantiaed, or ad hominem

>is exactly like the Clintons, to the point of having been a close friend of them in the past
>most likely only changed his political ideology to gain popular support, was a strong liberal until very recently (and trumpettes say clinton is wishy-washy, which is just hilarious)

I've already stated that as a billionaire he was part of the elite in group. What matter is what he's going to do now. Why do you think I said he's the candidate for the people? He became what the people wanted.

>will happily throw eastern europe to the wolves in the form of Russians (NATO statements)

Maybe the big circlejerk of nations clumped together in Europe can actually act out their stated purpose of defending against Russia. Not like America would deploy men is Europe anyway. Maybe if the countries in Europe had spent the fraction of the amount they had on immigrants and spent it on the defense budget they'd be in a better situation.

#42 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 10:50:02

Granger wrote:

Why is socialism bad again?

Look fampai, i can see communism being bad, but socialism? Mericants need to get off this Socialism == Communism thing.
And in mericas case id argue high taxes is a good thing, but i think that in general anyway, provided the goverment doesnt just sit on its gpa and hoards the money for fuck all.

Sitting money is worthless, you need to take it, and pour it into projects that improve the nation. Merica could use some more funds for  Education, Infractstructure and Healthcare for one, but first id wager they'd need to get rid of this deeprooted corruption where companies basically control the goverment.

Socialism isn't sustainable at all. You're taking money from the wealth successful people and giving it to the dumb and lazy, which hampers economic growth and doesn't even reduce wealth disparity. In fact socialism promotes poverty, the poverty in America was in decline until welfare was introduced. Because you get generations dependent on welfare, and then those people breed and increase and create even more people dependent on welfare.
And then on to of that you immigrants pouring in trying to take advantage of the gibs me dats. Welfare state + lax immigration control = disaster.
High taxes and regulation, these things are the anathema to business. Even if you have this view that businesses are evil, increasing taxes will not make them pay their fair share. They will simply avoid the taxes, move to another country etc. higher taxes is not associated with higher tax revenue in the long run.

The private sector is simply more efficient. With the things the government do, you could throw your money into a wishing well and it would probably benefit society more than giving it to the government. Pouring money into healthcare, education, social programs etc. does not improve society. And infrastructure is good, but now the majority of the voter base doesn't care about infrastructure or the economy, the just want free stuff.

Hillary is useless for this obviously, but all in all i think Trump is even worse.

Look, i dont even want to hear of this clown show anymore, its been going on since months and the citizens dont seem to realize either of these two are horrible, horrible canidates for president and they should've gotten rid of this dumb idea that theres only two parties ages ago. (Merica isnt a truly 2 party system, but uneducated and ignorant fucks ie >70% of mericans dont know it or ignore it)
Starting to wonder if merica actually is a bad comedy show made by chinese. :^)

Trump is not worse, no way in hell. He is not running for the corrupt establishment interests, that's Hillary. Hillary is the incarnation of establishment corruption, of criminality, and frankly evil in general. Trump used to be part of the elite, as he was saying in one of his rallies yesterday, but as an insider and a businessmen he knows how the elite play the system. He wants to lower taxes but decrease tax avoidance and increase economic growth and create jobs. Trump is the populist candidate running for the people, if that wasn't the case as I've said then the establishment wouldn't hate him so much.

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

― Margaret Thatcher

#43 Re: Off Topic » 卐 Politics 卐 » 2016-11-08 08:22:18

Granger wrote:

Why is socialism bad again?

Look fampai, i can see communism being bad, but socialism? Mericants need to get off this Socialism == Communism thing.
And in mericas case id argue high taxes is a good thing, but i think that in general anyway, provided the goverment doesnt just sit on its gpa and hoards the money for fuck all.

Sitting money is worthless, you need to take it, and pour it into projects that improve the nation. Merica could use some more funds for  Education, Infractstructure and Healthcare for one, but first id wager they'd need to get rid of this deeprooted corruption where companies basically control the goverment. Hillary is useless for this obviously, but all in all i think Trump is even worse.

Look, i dont even want to hear of this clown show anymore, its been going on since months and the citizens dont seem to realize either of these two are horrible, horrible canidates for president and they should've gotten rid of this dumb idea that theres only two parties ages ago. (Merica isnt a truly 2 party system, but uneducated and ignorant fucks ie >70% of mericans dont know it or ignore it)
Starting to wonder if merica actually is a bad comedy show made by chinese. :^)

>opposing opinion

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#44 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2016-11-07 20:54:08

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