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enet · ^

All my stupid/immigrant friends voted to stay in; all my smart friends that are on their way to getting MDs and w/e sort of degree in a high field voted to move out. That's a sneak peek to what kind of people actually voted for what.

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GladiOol · ^

Yeah I know fairly little about this situation, let me say that first. I don't really follow the news for it just shows people being pro or anti the brexit while knowing fairly little about it themselves. Next to that, it isn't my vote to make. I just saw the academic/scientific funds thingy pop up somewhere and thought it was worth mentioning. If scientists and other high-learned professionals have to move to a different nation, that might affect the UK (and its schools).

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enet · ^

Leaving the EU isn't forcing anyone to be deported; they can stay but the laws behind who can come work here from abroad will be more strict. Because as it is, anyone can just come in and take a job as if they were citizen of the country.

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FuZ · ^

enet wrote:

but the long term advantages have always been outstandingly better

what will be the long term advantages?

enet · ^

Freedom to change our tariffs and quotas; imports into our country and exports out which allows us to more easily manipulate our net exports and capital account, allowing for a better balance of payments which the UK has been suffering in the negative for many years due to being a member of the EU. The international competitiveness of the UK has also been relatively poor considering our capital standing and it's due to the fact we haven't been able to fully control our own imports and exports and being a member of the EU dis-allows your country from changing their own monetary policies. Even though we did not share in the use of the Euro, the value of our pound was still stuck to the value of the Euro and it restricted us from changing our interest rates and in turn, since interest rates correlate with exchange rates, we could not change our own exchange rates either.
With the freedom to change all this, it allows us to be more internationally competitive and be a bigger powerhouse in international trade. Our long stagnant economic growth can rise even further and the GDP of the UK will end up increasing in the future.

tl;dr basic economics, more GDP = good and the long term shit are majority of the time more advantageous than the short term shit.
For those that do know economics tl;dr: Even though in the short term it will decrease our GDP, in the long run it will increase the aggregate supply of the UK, increasing it's productive capacity.

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enet · ^

My knowledge of economics is a bit shaky since I haven't done it for 2 years but I remember for my finals exam, for the last question you had to write an essay discussing whether leaving the EU would be more beneficial or harmful to the UK. In legitimate economics essay fashion I wrote 4 pages; first paragraph an introduction; 3 paragraphs dedicated to the side of your choice (why it is beneficial); 2 paragraphs dedicated to the opposite side (why it could be harmful); and finishing with a final conclusion/judgement. Of course I was heavily inclined to writing about it being more beneficial like all my other colleagues and what I wrote was something along those lines... I think.

Aurelianus Augustus · ^

You must be badass. :p
Try studying business economy for 5 years m8.

Poking fun at the little British mongrel aside, these next few days will be so relaxing because I'll get to hear and debate what some people whose words hold some weight have to say. Finally something besides dry studying.

enet · ^

I studied business economy and I find it a lot more easier and a lot less essay-based than standard economics. Even my friends who study it in university find it easier than A-level economics.
In general though, economics basically teaches you common sense that just happens to be... not so common.

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Aurelianus Augustus · ^

Idk what kind of business economy it is over there, but out of 106 people I had in my class, only 28 are left, and it's not even the end of the second year for me. I could show you all the books that I had the last semester, too.
I definitely agree that it's nowhere near as studying medicine, but at least here you need quite a good high school record to enter. It also probably has something to do with the fact that it's a private uni, and not the filthy public one.

Mahogany · ^

ew private schools

enet · ^

That's probably due to the state of your country or whatever because business economy is not thought of highly here. If you think on it hard enough, ignoring the laws and such, the things you learn in economics are things you should already know yet it just so happened that you never thought of them before, hence, common sense. You literally don't need a degree in business economy to become a big name entrepreneur. Look at Alan Sugar, fool dropped school when he was around 16 and look where he is now. To be quite honest if you went to a university or a job saying you have an A* or a degree in business over here they would consider you less than someone with nearly any different degree.

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Granger · ^

I dunno about your claims that the leave voters are smarter/better/whatever, but from the little i've talked with british citizens (just three), they voted leave purely because they claimed the EU to be a undemocratic, evil dictatorship, which is just plain false.

EU has problems, but a lack of democracy aint one.

enet · ^

First of all, you've only spoken (and only a little) with three british citizens.
Second of all, I literally have proof through which of my friends voted what (and I have a lot of friends), people from across the country; out of all my friends, the stupid ones/the immigrants voted in; the smarter ones who actually had knowledge in economics voted out.
For the ones that voted in, all the arguments they stated were from what they heard from the TV; internet; mail and every other propaganda David Cameron has been sending out. Not one argument that came from their own heads.
The ones that voted out actually gave legitimate, educated arguments because they actually knew what they were talking about, instead of just searching the internet and googling "y Brexit gud".

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Aurelianus Augustus · ^

enet wrote:

That's probably due to the state of your country or whatever because business economy is not thought of highly here. If you think on it hard enough, ignoring the laws and such, the things you learn in economics are things you should already know yet it just so happened that you never thought of them before, hence, common sense. You literally don't need a degree in business economy to become a big name entrepreneur. Look at Alan Sugar, fool dropped school when he was around 16 and look where he is now.

What you're referring to there is charisma, talent and serious dedication. You don't need a degree in anything to become famous and successful, as some of the wealthiest and most well-known people in the world have proven.

However, that doesn't mean you can skip through everything and expect to be as great as those people. 65% of your youth voted to stay in EU, meaning 65% of them are seriously mentally challenged and/or know nothing of general politics and economy. They have no knowledge about business economy and never will have, as your average Joe barely has enough knowledge for other shit, let alone of how the economy works.

To get back to your original point - I'm studying it both to understand it more than your average retard and as a way of getting a job I've been eyeing for a long time now. With that goal achieved, I can concentrate on what my true passion is - archaeology.

enet · ^

Yeah, because contrary to the meaning of common sense, the majority of people don't actually have common sense.

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