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#91 Re: Mafia » Tuuba Mafia 3: The Return of Mafia [TOWN VICTORY] » 2016-09-12 19:11:05
So, we have to make choices between IppE/Granger and enet/FirstTroph.
IppE and Granger are not mafia together. enet and FirstTroph are not mafia together.
#92 Re: Mafia » Tuuba Mafia 3: The Return of Mafia [TOWN VICTORY] » 2016-09-12 19:02:08
I agree that Syncs lynch was silly as fuck, but thats mostly due the fact he bloody didnt defend themselfes. He garnered votes simply due his inactivity. And as such, indeed it wouldnt surprise me if most of the voters on there indeed were townies while mafia just took the chance for a free lurk while everyone and everything waits on Sync. Or the mafia voted on him to seem more town, because that'd be easy. I dont know.
I read all votes on Sync as townish.
Voting someone who did a whacky thing and then doesnt reason about it when asked is, to me, a town thing. One that doesnt reason shouldnt be let off the hook, but i do find it a real shame it was a townie who didnt reason.
His vote for LunarStorm was anything but whacky. He was wrong, true, but the vote itself was not wrong. And he did defend himself. He said he thought his play was the correct thing to do, but he just ended up being wrong. I still don't think suspecting LunarStorm of scummy play was a ''wrong'' move to make there and then.
Also, if all votes on Sync are read as townish, then IppE and FirstTroph are your mafia, correct?
Im having some trouble following your logic there, that IppE didnt vote/defended Sync i read as neutral, not something as exceedingly town (like you appartetly, merely because sync did end up being a townie?). Why exactly should be defending someone who did something stupid cause you to trust only them, because they were the only one to defend? And that makes me scum because?
I don't think Sync's play was stupid, so I guess we just disagree there. I also think IppE openly doubting tupsu (which he did early on, D1 a little, D2 a lot + vote) and IppE's defending of Sync (which, again, he did early on in D2, before the votes rolled out) are town plays. D2 I had my doubts about tupsu as well, but I wasn't 100% convinved to shoot her. I was considering not to use it. But IppE's vote + reasoning convinced me to pull the trigger there and then. I doubt he'd keep his suspicion on tupsu if they are both mafia. It would only lead to me shooting tupsu, since I also defended Sync and expressed my doubts about tupsu.
Every kill means informations and we're seriously sprawling for informations at this point. I recognize that most likely you or hika would be killed. (im actually kinda expecting hika at this point), but our claims and such would make mafia see who they'd have to be most weary of and then decide who they kill, depending on which we can get some more of a idea who is/was dangerous to mafia, even if mafia tries to misdirect us.
And yeah, that kinda sucks for You and Hika. Such is being (((confirmed))) town in this stage.
I don't see how me or Hika dying will yield any information. Will my death prove enet is scum? Will Hika's death prove FirstTroph is scum? I don't think it will give us anything to go with, other than simply reducing the amount of town players.
And tbh, i dont think you need to justify your actions, i think you did good, but im having some doubts about your N1 kill. Killing inactives is one thing sure, but that being all of it, esp on day one i dont think is a sound reason. Day one and Night one are always a big unknown and how people act in early stages can change drastically in later stages when informations become more available.
So yeah, just... look closely before you shoot, vig is a powerful role that puts a lot of responsibility on you. Thats it.
Yeah, I agree. However I had two shots. I think using one early on is fine. Especially considering it could have just as well be me getting lynched N1 instead of the cop. I still believe Vigi is the strongest town role.
Also lol @ me removing my vote on EneT "instantly". I had it on him for quite a while before i got doubts about it.
I think you misread. I said you instantly went with the Sync vote, whereas you were very reluctant with the enet vote.
#93 Re: Mafia » Tuuba Mafia 3: The Return of Mafia [TOWN VICTORY] » 2016-09-12 16:29:17
@Granger
So the other mafia with IppE is enet or FirstTroph then? But in that case, I don't think we have a solid lynch. Not lynching will not do anything good at all because it will just result in Hika or me getting lynched at night, which will leave us with no new information whatsoever.
Also, if I have two shots I think it's more than fine to use them N1 and N2. Especially considering I got a mafia shot. On N1, I wanted to remove one inactive player, which was either you or Multtari. And on N2 I shot tupsu, mainly based on her plays D2 and based on IppE's reasoning to vote on her.
What made this game so fast is the double miss lynches, with the Sync vote being a silly vote. I think the only town who voted for sync were fittan, who was already on sync's ass, and hika, who decided to push to vote rather than do nothing. But according to your theory, it could be as much as 4 town voting for Sync, with hika/fittan/you/enet voting on Sync. I really do not see this being the case, because that would mean the only person I can trust is IppE, since he defended Sync. But that would mean your theory with IppE being mafia can't be correct, which makes you scum again.
Might I also ask, why did you vote for Sync so fast on day two? On day one you were reluctant to keep your vote on enet and removed it yet you instantly went for Sync who was arguably a far worse lynch than enet was D1.
Also, prod FirstTroph. It's time he speaks up.
And I want to know enet's unclaimed role.
#94 Re: Mafia » Tuuba Mafia 3: The Return of Mafia [TOWN VICTORY] » 2016-09-11 13:11:50
Fine, I'll unvote. But I do want to know everybody's mafia pairs.
Unvote
Also, I'm re-reading all enet's posts and it honestly makes him more scum than any other player still alive. I urge all town to reread all of it and see him jumping from left to right and back left and back right again to vote whoever he pleases with whatever reason while calling other people ''stupid'' at any given moment for plays he does not agree with. Also, enet has said he has an ''unimportant role''. Well, I believe now to be the absolute best time to unveil that no? So why haven't you done so yet? Any information is needed yet you're not adding anything right now. If you honestly are town you are making us lose this game. Also, let's not forget that enet, and tupsu, who was mafia, have voted for both town players.
I don't see how Granger + enet are not the remaining mafia. Feel free to diverge my thoughts.
#97 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2016-09-11 10:25:21
GladiOol wrote:tupsu wrote:FuZ wrote:recovered my league of legends account yesterday, forgot how boring this game was
it's an absolutely shit game and yet I still play it, because I have no friends to play dota with
I play from time to time with friends. You can always join if you want to. Dota is horrible to play alone.
ok but how good are you
cause I'm pretty bad
i play with people ranging from 2.8 to 4k mmr. im 4.7 myself. we're all pretty trash individually. but as a team, at times, we can make some next level na'vi plays. we play for fun anyway, so you're always welcome to join.
#98 Re: Mafia » Tuuba Mafia 3: The Return of Mafia [TOWN VICTORY] » 2016-09-10 21:48:35
enet just now had to power to push the vote and 'end' the game if he was mafia and Granger town. So either both enet and Granger are scum or Granger and FirstTroph. Hika's confirmed town. IppE played like town and went after tupsu day 2. Why would he choose tupsu if they are both mafia? Why not go for the ''safer'' FirstTroph or Plakkis Hika (before she role claimed) at that point? It doesn't add up. The only logical pairings are Granger + FirstTroph or Granger + enet, so Granger is a 100% lynch.
#99 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2016-09-10 17:40:53
FuZ wrote:recovered my league of legends account yesterday, forgot how boring this game was
it's an absolutely shit game and yet I still play it, because I have no friends to play dota with
I play from time to time with friends. You can always join if you want to. Dota is horrible to play alone.
#100 Re: Mafia » Tuuba Mafia 3: The Return of Mafia [TOWN VICTORY] » 2016-09-10 13:54:57
Vote: Granger
#101 Re: Mafia » Tuuba Mafia 3: The Return of Mafia [TOWN VICTORY] » 2016-09-09 14:53:10
Granger lynch is pretty much 100% confirmed at this point then. There's no way both the other mafia AND town decide to not vote if we three do. But we also need to look at the day after this one because we cannot make any miss-lynches anymore. One mistake on our part and we lose. I'm not 100% sold on enet not being mafia, so I want to see what he has to say in his defence. Same applies to FirstTroph.
#102 Re: Mafia » Tuuba Mafia 3: The Return of Mafia [TOWN VICTORY] » 2016-09-09 10:35:02
Granger & enet being the other two mafia seems most likely. Granger & FirstTroph is also a possibility, but less likely I think. I doubt enet/FirstTroph are working in tandem, but considering enet did give tupsu flak at the start and then jumped on FirstTroph, he might have been using the same ''tactic'' there. But that seems highly unlikely to me.
Oh well, let's hear Hika and win this game as I really don't care for Granger & enet's explanation. Sorry guys, nothing personal.
#104 Re: Off Topic » ITT: Pretend we are still writing in osu! OT » 2016-09-07 15:03:42
happy birthday mara
#105 Re: Mafia » Tuuba Mafia 3: The Return of Mafia [TOWN VICTORY] » 2016-09-05 16:00:32
vote and shot the day after* tomorrow. im tired.
