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#46 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-25 14:09:31

IppE wrote:

I noticed that on D1 you did actually not do any scumhunting, something you've generally done in past games when you're on town's side. All you did was just defend your initial no-lynch vote which you just conveniently forgot was very anti-town until  you were reminded of it.

D1 was way way too short for me to do scumhunting. I always compile data about the people in game to draw conclusions prior to deciding who to vote for, and we were still pretty much into the random vote phase.

IppE wrote:

Who knows, maybe you killed them all?

Roleclaim: Cop
...
I decided to inspect you during the night and what do you know, it turns out you're anti town.

Vote: abraker

Why didn't you role claim from the beginning of D1 and only did it now? With one scum remaining and nobody having nuetral roles, for a cop to role claim following and investigation of an anti town player means checkmate for the scum.

- The scum can't roleclaim as cop at this point, otherwise the real cop would simply role claim and the fake and real would be sorted out by the next day via lynching one of them. This means either you are a real cop, or we are waiting for the real cop to role claim.

- If a player claims to be a cop and have inspected someone who happens to be anti town, then the cop has forfilled their purpose. Lynching the cop would confirm whether they are lying or not, and the scum is dead next day.

IppE wrote:

It's also kind of adorable how you claim to not know how the tracker role works.

I actually didn't  know how it works

#47 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-25 04:21:15

IppE wrote:
abraker wrote:

Wait, doesn't the tracker role allow you figure out who used a special role during the night? Wouldnt mafia's priority be figuring out who the cop is?

Setup details tells us that the mafia needs to choose between using the tracker ability and a nightkill. Again, you should know this. fittan being dead tells us that mafia chose not to use the tracker ability but instead went for the kill of the most active scumhunter, who during the previous day singled out the other mafia.

I know this


IppE wrote:

Also the mafia would have to correctly first guess who the cop is, since the tracker role doesn't magically tell you anything, just if the person you targeted performed a night action and who they targeted. To the tracker the cop and doctor are indistinquishable. If they even pick the right person to track.

This is the part I was not aware of. I thought it would show who targeted without selecting who to track, which is why I thought it was too good of a thing for mafia to pass up on.


Where is everybody? The clock is ticking...

#48 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-24 12:15:11

IppE wrote:
abraker wrote:

I could only imagine this would mean the remaining scum *really* wanted to get rid of fittan. I can't think of any other reason why they would risk not using it.

fittan was the most active scumhunter, it's blatantly obvious as to why mafia would like to get rid of them. You of all people should be aware of this.

Wait, doesn't the tracker role allow you figure out who used a special role during the night? Wouldnt mafia's priority be figuring out who the cop is?

#49 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-24 02:13:48

I'll repost fittan's comment regarding Hades and TB for reference

fittan wrote:
Aurelianus Augustus wrote:

He was never known to be a man of logic, so despite voting for me out of silliness, he doesn't seem like he's capable of scheming like a dirty, filthy cyborg and thus you shouldn't base your vote solely around that.

smells to me like early distancing from fellow scum. I'd like to add that this read has nothing to do with my initial vote on Aur, call it Aur randomly being the top voted person and Hades taking the bait. Why else would Aur post this? I find Lefafel's post(s) not so relevant to this, it's just random voting.

Aurelianus Augustus wrote:

Man would it be funny if I ate my own words and he turned out to be a cyborg just pretending to be daft, but actually planned it out all along.

This post also doesn't make sense to me as anything other than scum distancing. Aur's post quoted above is actually exactly what raised a flag to me and I was waiting for one of you to make a single other post related to one another after this one, hopefully with a bit more of a defence than 'just doing my thing, lol'.

Now,

Hades Izanami wrote:

I wouldnt jump into quick conclusions but Aurelianus fast response is pretty suspicious, given the fact that the first vote was random. Now I wouldnt call IppE the nicest guy in the world, so lets keep an eye on him too.

this post I can't make much out of, it being your first post and all, but still the fact that you later chose to vote for Aur makes me wonder why you even said such a thing. Were you expecting someone to jump on IppE? Meme-voting one another at the start is very common and it's really helpful for town, actually, because it lets town know who's keen to make literally anything out of it. You kind of did, too. Arguably so did I, though it's easy for me to claim it was to bait others into doing something worth making an early read out of.

Sincerely waiting for both of you to tell me to fuck off.

Vote: Hades Izanami.

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Imo there are two possibilities:
1) Like Lefafel said, Fittan touched the truth and so he was eliminated before finding out more evidence. This would mean A.A is potentially Hades's scum budy.
2) Mafia are taking advantage of the fittan's highlight of the situation between Hades and A.A to mislead us into thinking there is something between them. This means A.A is not Hades's scum budy.

fittan wrote:

Sincerely waiting for both of you to tell me to fuck off.

^ I also find this bit interesting considering he got NK'd

Lefafel wrote:

We know the remaining Mafia has the Tracker trait, but that they did not use their ability since we witnessed a night kill. I'm not sure what that implies, but worth making a note of.

I could only imagine this would mean the remaining scum *really* wanted to get rid of fittan. I can't think of any other reason why they would risk not using it.

#50 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-20 21:41:46

zertap wrote:

Also for some reason even when you "don't vote without a reason" you jumped from a no-reason vote to another.

I actually totally forgot no-vote is an actual vote. I was intending to make a vote that doesn't count, totally oblivious that no-vote is an option. So the first vote was not a no reason vote, but a mistake. The second vote is me throwing my hands up at the ridiculousness of how everyone is voting everybody else for arbitrary reasons after you said

zertap wrote:

I guess D1 next-to-no-suspicion votes are better than no votes at all tho.

So I was like, "fuck it", let me play their game for once. Why spinner? I still can't choose based on no reason, so I let spinner choose for me.

#51 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-20 21:27:57

zertap wrote:

Abraker's jump to a random vote just seemed fishy.

You know what's fishy? How agreeing to your criticism of my no-vote makes me look fishy to you.

#53 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-19 00:14:16

IppE wrote:

What if the spinner is conspiring with the cyborgs?

Vote: abraker

Then it would be motorized and my hand wouldn't have spun it

#54 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-18 15:17:49

zertap wrote:

abraker, remember that no-lynch is also a vote which can end the day.

I almost forgot that no-lynch and no-vote are different

zertap wrote:

Also for some reason even when you "don't vote without a reason" you jumped from a no-reason vote to another.

I didn't consider no-lynch to be an actual vote, which is prob my bad, but the vote for lefafel is based on reason. I did who spinner says.

#55 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-18 01:40:43

zertap wrote:

No-lynch is a pretty bad vote. Not that I'd know who to suspect anyways.
I guess D1 next-to-no-suspicion votes are better than no votes at all tho.

You guys know I don't vote without reason.

But if you insist...
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Vote: Lefafel

#56 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-17 00:38:17

Ah yes time to keep this tab open

Vote: Nobody
Reason: I am feeling extra edgy

#58 Re: Mafia » Cyberpunk Mafia [Town Win] » 2018-07-09 06:32:57

Actually osuforums mafia is dead too
I am in the last game and it has been on hold for 10 months now

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