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enet · ^

Mahogany wrote:

enet wrote:
I don't care who wins as long as America isn't fucked up with no repair when I move there.
So you're basically fucked no matter who wins then

I acknowledge that both sides are trash but I still want to move to America.

Last edited by enet (2016-11-07 18:51:45)

Mahogany · ^

enet wrote:

I acknowledge that both sides are trash but I still want to move to America.

Move to Ireland instead we're basically better in every way :^)

enet · ^

Nah your accent is trash.

B1rd · ^

This 'both sides are bad' meme is getting a bit stale. Trump did nothing wrong.

The current political establishment in America is corrupt as hell, basically the country is governed by an elite political class that is controlled by corporate money. Along with the extensive criminality of Hillary and her associates that have been uncovered though wikileaks, there is even evidence of cultist rituals, child sex trafficking and paedophilia. Hillary is payed of by the same people who fund ISIS. The list of things goes on.

Meanwhile you have Trump, a smart man and successful businessman, who promises to end the corruption and lead for the people. That's why the establishment, the media etc. hate him so much because he isn't part of their in group. Trump has a lot of good policies as well, stop the TPP, end Obama care, stop illegal immigration, lower taxes, improve diplomatic relations with Russia, good stuff.
In contrast, Hillary will certainly continue with the failed policies of Obama, not to mention she wants to provoke Russia which is absolutely ridiculous. She will just continue the corruption.

Last edited by B1rd (2016-11-07 19:10:35)

Mahogany · ^

enet wrote:

Nah your accent is trash.

Oi fuck you, our accents are the best and everyone loves us <3

B1rd wrote:

This 'both sides are bad' meme is getting a bit stale. Trump did nothing wrong.

Being a bigoted asshole is definitely something I'd consider to be "wrong" - this will mean a lot for international relationships and potentially send America down the gutter, if this worst-case scenario happens.

B1rd wrote:

smart man

"Small loan of a million dollars"
"Build a wall"
"Grab her by the pussy"

B1rd wrote:

successful businessman

I'm not even going to get into criticizing trump as a businessman, but that isn't a quality anyone should be looking for in a president.

B1rd wrote:

lead for the people

What people? The man seems to have an issue with almost everyone. How can a country of immigrants be so anti-immigration?

B1rd wrote:

the establishment, the media etc. hate him so much because he isn't part of their in-group.

I'm pretty sure the reason they hate him is because of the bigoted and idiotic things he says.

B1rd wrote:

end Obama care

Free healthcare is a basic human right - denying it will never be a good thing.

B1rd wrote:

lower taxes

Lowering taxes alone isn't a good policy, especially with america's problems.

B1rd wrote:

improve diplomatic relations with Russia, good stuff.

How can you talk about diplomatic relations while supporting trump and what he's said? He's gonna destroy america's diplomatic relations :/

B1rd wrote:

In contrast, Hillary will certainly continue with the failed policies of Obama, not to mention she wants to provoke Russia which is absolutely ridiculous. She will just continue the corruption.

Then don't vote for Hillary, easy.

B1rd · ^

I'm not even gonna attempt to read that abomination of a post.

enet · ^

Aw man I was about to microwave some popcorn and tell someone to get the camera.

Mahogany · ^

At least this shows us that being a twat truly isn't an exclusively American quality - the world is so progressive! You can be a cunt anywhere!

Seriously though, I hope you get past these delusions soon.

enet wrote:

Aw man I was about to microwave some popcorn and tell someone to get the camera.

B1rd is a trump supporter so what did you expect

did you think he's actually capable of holding a forum?

Last edited by Mahogany (2016-11-07 19:33:34)

B1rd · ^

I hope you get past the 'I know better than everyone pseudo-intellectual millennial' stage.

Not like I try to engage with you but you seem eager to jump out and tell Trump supporters how dumb they are.

Last edited by B1rd (2016-11-07 19:39:01)

tekihtimaliolan · ^

B1rd would you have preferred bernie over trump?

Mahogany · ^

B1rd wrote:

I hope you get past the 'I know better than everyone pseudo-intellectual millennial' stage.

It's really hard to avoid sounding smart when I keep company like you - I mean, I don't like doing it, but you seriously make it impossible to avoid.

B1rd wrote:

Not like I try to engage with you

Like I said - in denial. It's the equivalent of a child putting their fingers in their ears going "LALALA I can't hear you!"

I mean if all you want to do is circlejerk about Trump you can head to the_donald. Have you never dealt with opposing opinions before?

B1rd wrote:

you seem eager to jump out and tell Trump supporters how dumb they are.

I've tried very hard to keep an open mind, but you've done nothing but reinforce my beliefs...sadly. It's the same from everyone else I've tried to talk to about it, too.

Brian OA · ^

I'd say B1rd's got the right idea considering it'd be hard to hold a decent conversation with no common ground

I mean, even if you're trying not to be, you come off as uppity, and you seem much more prone to dismissing someone for simply holding a certain position than anything else. I don't see any kind of effort into attempting to understand what you're addressing. You might as well have just written

>[opposing opinion]

and left it at that. I know B1rd's like that too, but doing the same thing doesn't do your case any good.

Last edited by Brian OA (2016-11-07 20:07:33)

B1rd · ^

tekihtimaliolan wrote:

B1rd would you have preferred bernie over trump?

Nope, socialism is a bad idea in general.

I was gonna respond to that stuff about economics as well. I'll do that, some day.

Mahongany wrote:

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Why do you think I don't like talking to you? I'm sick of your constant shit flinging and ineffective argumentation. Case in point. I argue with anyone about anything, but I've already engaged with you enough to know that any attempt at discussion is pointless and unproductive.

Mahogany · ^

B1rd wrote:

Why do you think I don't like talking to you?

Because the very idea of a dissenting opinion horrifies you?

B1rd wrote:

I'm sick of your constant shit flinging and ineffective argumentation.

That's hilarious coming from a person who's failed to even make an argument in the first place.

B1rd wrote:

Case in point. I argue with anyone about anything...

But you won't argue with anyone about anything - case in point is this very topic.

B1rd wrote:

but I've already engaged with you enough to know that any attempt at discussion is pointless and unproductive.

"I can't stand anyone who can make a good case against my beliefs"

Last edited by Mahogany (2016-11-07 20:11:29)

tupsu · ^

meanwhile in Estonia, our current coalition and government fell apart all in the span of one evening
nobody really cares though

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