oh for fuck's sake just end me now

Hika, Mara, please post reads asap
Multtari, was that all of your paragraphs or are you still working on something bigger? what's your read on lefa? any defense re his claims?

it's near impossible to provide a satisfactory tldr but basically everyone is a suspect, as per standard d1
we were kinda heading towards a soner lynch for being a really stupid probably-townie, but that's obviously not going to be the case anymore
at least read the last 2 pages or so, that should give you a satisfactory overview of the situation at hand, main suspects/people who nearly hit lynch votes so far have been fittan and me (which is pretty normal, considering we've been the two most active players)

I was referring to not the suicidal part but the part where he was forced into a corner by mafia, where everything he said just seemed to implicate him more (and I think you may be thinking of a different game or something, since at one point he pretty specifically said 'fuck you, I'm town but I don't want to win, I'm voting to lynch myself so mafia wins')

I am pro-town, I do want to win, trying to get myself lynched would be very counterproductive to both of those things

I'm already in bed so you'll get the rest of my deep insight tomorrow

forgot about that message, all good I guess. sorry

I'm working too now so I'll be unreachable until ~6 hours later at the earliest

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I'm not ready to deal with this this early in the morning

1, I haven't played with you before, I have read a game you were in before, you only cracked out the google doc after game was over that time which was far easier to get through
2, soner has yet to come on and explain themselves, which is part of why I'm heavily advocating for a retard lynch. townie that harms town is worse than townie that questions everything and inevitably implicates themselves in the process. if they came on and actually provided a valid explanation+content/reads, I would be happily willing to drop it as long as they don't continue doing panties on head retarded shit. instead they've been completely silent ever since said PM, which isn't exactly making me like them more.
3, yes, I was in the game where enet went full fucking suicidal and voted for self-lynch just because people were on his ass. mafia did a decent job at making him look like a loonie to the point where the entire game believed he's scum based on his behaviour. you might not have noticed, this is my second game total and first game as townie, I really don't have the perfect poker face y'all seem to be expecting of me. please don't make the enet situation happen again.
4, I don't see the point in posting if it's not to provide additional theories or possible lynch targets, to generate discussion and activity rather than silently allow a full RVS lynch to go through (or worse yet, allow a no-lynch since that literally only helps scum). I'm not setting up anything, I just want to survive the fucking day and not lynch another active player. I don't write out my reasonings for my scumreads in as explicit detail as you do, that's probably why it seems 'aggressive' to you. I will try my best to provide reasonings in the future if it makes you feel better about my non-scumminess.
note how I haven't voted anyone besides boat earlier on, which was very much a RV and withdrawn shortly after since it was not providing any information
5, even if you don't like me, you have to accept the fact that assuming we're all town, mafia is rubbing their hands together in absolute glee as we bite into each other. if you are scum (AND NO, THIS IS NOT ME ACCUSING YOU, IT IS ME PROVIDING A HYPOTHETICAL), you are in perfect position as out of the three active accusers, you're the only one with no votes on you and seem to be having a great time trying to convince people to vote me.

I'm currently leaning townie on you, if on nothing else than your fervor in trying to vote me out. you're being way too loud and insistent on it for it to be a mafia scheme, and if it is it's just stupid enough to seem like an aggressive townie instead. it is still bothering me that your posts so far have all just been pointing fingers at me (and, really, "All you say is suggestive self-defense, which is why it's easy to counter"? it's hard to say anything else when the only stuff you post is accusations at me and vague claims about figuring out other roles)

how is it out of character? I've read enough of their games to know how the finns like to set their mafias up. I like having some type of framework to work with, hence why I'm publicly posting that guess (also I don't care enough to set up a google doc just for the sake of game, so you get my unfiltered thoughts here most of the time. also part of why I probably sound aggressive)
do you mean out of character in the sense of meta or what? cause that's not really a rule here as far as I can tell

okay, here you go, despite me saying it earlier in this post: I am town, and I have already breadcrumbed my role if you know how to read into posts, so spend some time meditating on that if you'd like. can't do anything about other players being inactive, as much as I'd love to in order to reduce suspicion on me.

like I've previously said, I just found it slightly funny/odd that you specifically picked her to rag on despite me posting between you two. I'd still like to know if you just missed my post somehow or what, but no it should not be taken as a strong read whatsoever - especially since we're two pages away from it at this point and you're being the most helpful player around thus far. my post was to spur you into a reaction and gain information based on that, it was never all that serious - your response just stuck out as weird to me in a phase with very little information to work with.

again, it was odd to me that they put a second vote on a person during RVS, where in my opinion vote checking everyone and seeing their response would be the most reasonable move to gather as much information as possible. that's why I originally voted boat - no one else had yet. like my original vote on you, it should really not be taken as a serious read at this point.
tldr: stop reading into/assuming I still believe my very early scumreads, they were based entirely on RVS behaviour and have not been backed up as we move into more directed votes. my suspicion is on the inactives right now, in particular soner because he has still not provided any explanation or understanding of the situation, but I really can't call it a scumread because as we've established previously, soner is probably just retarded first game town.

also mod offered a fucking image to go with my "you're an autist", so I think I'm good on being warned ))

I agree with this, but I still feel uncomfortable about the fact that he hasn't even said "I just felt like it" as explanation for voting granger over me, or even going with the conveniently offered up "oh yeah I just missed your post". not necessarily something implicating him at all, but it still feels like an inconsistency in his behaviour to me

Granger please post your take on the situation asap, we need fresh eyes + viewpoints here

as far as I can tell, he's just saying he thinks he knows someone is definite townie but has no proof for it
that said, it is kinda weird and might be a slip, but I'm thinking it's more being overly sure of d1 reads
or he's mafia and knows most to all townies via process of elimination :') (most since we've no idea about possible third parties yet - it's a small game so I'd expect none, but you never know)

interesting move, how come you're voting him? I'm curious about your reasoning

the PM part has been clarified by mod, so I'm not touching that.
I don't like idiots in my mafia game, hence why I'm suggesting soner and boat as possible lynch votes. you're really barking up the wrong tree, though. funny how heavily you're locking onto me after I put a hesitant scumread on you, really getting me to think there might be something more to it